It really isn't that much work. 0000228460 00000 n The bark has the same scaly texture throughout the lower portion of the tree. ( Log Out /  I like both American Elm and Siberian Elm and assume that I would like Chinese Elm as well, and I don’t want to miss my chance to mill one if it ever comes along. Is hard to split when wet, but let it dry in the rounds for a few months and it doesn't split all that hard. Ulmus parvifolia, commonly known as the Chinese elm or lacebark elm, is a species native to eastern Asia, including mainland China, Taiwan, Japan, North Korea, South Korea and Vietnam. I saw it in a floor in Wisconsin and thought it surpassed oak for beauty. Siberian elm trees are small to medium-sized bushy trees with a rounded crown of dense foliage. (Also isn’t lifting my driveway with roots as the others did). It shares the same vase shape as the American elm.. Although often called a Chinese elm, a Siberian elm (Ulmus pumila) is a totally different tree. Lacebark Elm Information. While most elm species are good hearty trees, Siberian Elm is a problem in the urban forest. Noteworthy Characteristics. Many Lace Bark Elms get around 50 feet high and 35 feet wide. Both American and Siberian elms are prolific at spreading seeds, which helps them pop up in unplanned locations. Dan trailer << /Size 43 /Prev 1098139 /Info 25 0 R /Root 27 0 R >> startxref 0 %%EOF 27 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 28 0 R >> endobj 28 0 obj << /Type /Pages /Kids [ 29 0 R 1 0 R 7 0 R 13 0 R 19 0 R ] /Count 5 >> endobj 41 0 obj << /Length 42 0 R /S 71 /Filter /FlateDecode >> stream Do you think this type of wood would be good to use for this purpose? Contact me offline and I'll put you in touch with who you need to call. European elms are common across Europe. Everyone always asks what I do. Sapporo Autumn Gold Elm (U. x ‘Sapporo Autumn Gold’), Cathedral Elm (U. x It is second class to oak, and dies too often…it volunteers everywhere. Common name(s): Siberian elm, Asiatic elm, Chinese elm, dwarf elm Scientific name: Ulmus pumila Family: Elm family (Ulmaceae) Reasons for concern: Large, dangerous limbs on older trees can easily break off and seriously damage properties or injure people.It is susceptible to many diseases (not Dutch-elm disease), insects, and growth disorders. Siberian Elm Ulmus pumila. It is valued for its shiny, dark green foliage and rounded shape. It is also known as the Asiatic elm and dwarf elm, but sometimes miscalled the 'Chinese Elm' (Ulmus parvifolia).It is the last tree species encountered in the semi-desert regions of central Asia. I have no input on elms from England since I have no official experience with them, but I am going to put my money on them not being American elm. I’ve found nothing to describe the Siberian elm sapling and wondering if you can help. It isn’t that big of a deal, except that there really is a Chinese Elm and I often wonder if the next call about a Chinese Elm will, in fact, yield a Chinese Elm. The multiple colors and rich textures of lacebark elm … as a amatuer tree cutter (firewood) i have a devil of a time identifying trees i found your post modt helpful and will now argue with my freinds that they too don’t have a chinese elm. There aren’t many Chinese elms and since you have a Siberian in the front, the other is most likely a Siberian as well. Allergic reactions of Elm are allergic reaction and Asthma whereas of Siberian Elm have Mild Allergen respectively. I think American elm is one of the prettiest woods around and I am a big fan of Siberian elm too. I think the Siberian elms tend to be the showiest with wild grain and desirable imperfections. Siberian Elm vs. Chinese Elm. (2012). Elm tree bark: Wych elm bark is gray and smooth when young, which gradually develops fissures as the tr Before Dutch elm disease arrived, English elms were also common across Europe, but they are now confined primarily to Portugal, France, Spain, and England. Luis Sánchez Saturno/The New Mexican Facebook Siberian elm (which i often call Chinese elm - by mistake, they ARE different) weighs a ton when wet. I took that opportunity to snap some photos for comparison. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Siberian dwarf elms grow to between 50 and 70 ft. (15 -21 m). That sounds like elm leaf beetle, who love American elm. 0000000945 00000 n I've split American Elm and it … It also has a fast growth rate, but it is prone to branches breaking and many diseases and pests. In a natural environment though, they have a tougher go. Siberian elm is the weed tree that throws seeds in the spring. I often recommend them to my customers for woodworking projects. Other common names include red elm, gray elm, soft elm, moose elm, and Indian elm. View full size in a new window The bark is dark and coarse. I suspect the real motivation is the annual appearance of elm seedlings in flowerbeds. Because we love wood, we have a lot of very interesting stock. It can be used as a substitute for the American elm in the quest to overcome Dutch elm disease. It is noted for its excellent foliage, multi-colored bark, rapid growth and good resistance to Dutch elm disease. Ulmus rubra, the slippery elm, is a species of elm native to eastern North America, ranging from southeast North Dakota, east to Maine and southern Quebec, south to northernmost Florida, and west to eastern Texas, where it thrives in moist uplands, although it will also grow in dry, intermediate soils. Here in Mn, the Siberian elm is a decent tree. Siberian Elm. It has been described as "one of the most splendid elms, having the poise of a graceful Nothofagus".. Look at the new growth on your Siberian and see if it looks like the other to be sure. 0000229551 00000 n Nonetheless, just assume that your Chinese elm is actually a Siberian elm, unless it looks a lot like the photos below. Compare the facts of Elm vs Siberian Elm and know which one to choose. The Chinese elm tree (Ulmus parvifolia) has the same graceful vase shape as the American elm and also makes an excellent shade tree. Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia) and numerous cultivars - Not hardy in North Dakota. Chinese Elm Firewood. Chinese elm. This tree I kept because it’s beautiful, shady, and never drops limbs. Change ). I found your page while searching for advice regarding the huge trunk cuttings of the Siberian’s which I kept. We have green lumber, air-dried and kiln dried lumber as well as lower grades available. 0000226292 00000 n 26 0 obj << /Linearized 1 /L 1098713 /H [ 764 201 ] /O 29 /E 231844 /N 5 /T 1098149 >> endobj xref 26 17 0000000016 00000 n Here's the answer. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. Thank you for enlightening me. If someone says they have a Chinese Elm, I just assume that it is a Siberian Elm. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. japonica) e.g. Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) a very hardy, fast growing tree with brittle wood which is subject to breakage. Siberian elm was brought in to replace dying American elm trees. 0000000613 00000 n Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. ( Log Out /  Scott can be reached at 314-574-6036. I had no idea about two of the giants (Siberian Elms) I reluctantly had to cut down because in snow storms they would drop enormous limbs in the driveway breaking through power lines. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. Find diameters of the same size to compare. I have a third one I was told is an American Elm. Ulmus parvifolia, commonly called Chinese elm or lacebark elm, is a medium-sized deciduous tree that typically grows to 40-50’ (less frequently to 70’) tall with a rounded crown and long pendulous branching.It is native to China, Korea and Japan. 0000007375 00000 n I’m wanting to make furniture like live edge slabs for coffee tables, outdoor benches, etc. The presenter from Minnesota, specifically addressing power line issues and breaking branches, put Siberian elm at the top of the “Do Not Plant” list. As far as lumber goes, I am a fan of all elms. It is brittle and will easily break in storms and it is often tormented by other issues that leave it looking less than perfectly healthy all year long. Often confused with Chinese elm (Ulmus parvifolia). Siberian Elm is the weed of the elm family. It is difficult to identify young trees by the bark because young bark is so much different than mature bark. 0000000965 00000 n x�c```c``�������9���@���1�mc�b��Ͱ���" �. Almost everyone dislikes American elm. Also known as dwarf elm and Asiatic elm, the Siberian elm tree is described as very tenacious wit invasive traits which means that it can grow anywhere with quite an aggressive spread. Smaller of course is relative because in my opinion it still gets quite large. Also known as Chinese elm, lacebark elm is a medium size tree that typically reaches heights of 40 to 50 feet (12 to 15 m.). //--> The bark is similar in color and texture to the American elm. Without getting too technical, the main thing to know is the difference between the American Elm Tree and the Chinese Elm Tree. Like the American elm, it is tough to split, and it takes a long time in the season. I have gotten used to it now. Siberian elm traits: Bud Arrangement - Alternate. ( Log Out /  They tend to not dry flat, but generally work fine with power tools. However, once seasoned, it is an average kind of wood. A large Siberian elm stands in Cathedral Park as Cara Keyser and her mom, Diane Keyser, of Louisville, Colo., take a break on a park bench May 2. Siberian Elm are prone to having weak wood, slime flow from bacteria, poorly attached branches, and producing amazing amounts of seeds. If you are interested in custom work, please call for an appointment. Siberian elm. It is flat and scaly with multiple colors from silver gray to rusty orange. We are open for retail sales of lumber and slabs from 8 a.m. – noon on Saturdays and by appointment during the week. It blooms in autumn and has not been known to escape cultivation in Missouri. Ulmus pumila, the Siberian elm, is a tree native to Central Asia, eastern Siberia, the Russian Far East, Mongolia, Tibet, northern China, India (northern Kashmir) and Korea. For the record, I have seen many trees that you can’t get your arms around (which doesn’t make that nutty measuring system any less ambiguous), but the Chinese Elms that I hear about have never, ever, ever, not once, actually been Chinese Elms – they have always been Siberian Elms. 0000000668 00000 n Siberian elms are not great trees, while American elms are, at least as far as trees go. In this case, the tree has a short trunk with a … Thanks for the input. In colder regions of the country deciduous foliage develops a deep red, purple or even yellow fall color. You are correct. They are commonplace in most towns throughout the West, but typically they only grow in areas that are neglected. The Siberian elm has gray, deeply furrowed bark compared to the Chinese elm. thanks. Siberian elms are not a good choice for Missouri landscaping. In the back yard, on the other hand is an elm sapling, uniform in shape with very light colored, smooth bark. Although many know Siberian elm as "Chinese elm," another species, Ulmus parviflora, is more correctly called "Chinese elm." 0000007399 00000 n Twigs and leaves are … Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) in the Western United States is a weed on steroids.My family had a two of Siberian Elm trees in our front yard in northwestern Colorado, where I grew up, but we incorrectly called them a Chinese Elm. Click on the photo above for a short video tour and see all of the steps it takes to go from a tree to finished furniture. Nonetheless, just assume that your Chinese elm is actually a Siberian elm, unless it looks a lot like the photos below. I wouldn’t plan on using them for outdoor furniture because they aren’t as durable as other woods and they do tend to twist in the weather. Here in WY the Siberian were used for shelterbelts and you could count on a bushel of seeds every spring, but no tree worth anything except for firewood. Promising Dutch elm disease resistant hybrid elms from crosses of Siberian Elm (U. pumila) and Japanese Elm (U. davidiana var. For optimal drying conditions, it will take at least a year to season. And, of course, in England, lots of things were built with elm. It is not uncommon for only one in ten logs of Siberian Elm to have straight grain, with the rest having varying degrees of funkiness. 0000001082 00000 n %PDF-1.2 %���� Extremely susceptible to insect, disease, and herbicide damage, which makes it an undesirable tree. Siberian elms (also known as the Asiatic, Lacebark, or Chinese elm) are common in Central Asia, Mongolia China, Siberia, India, and Korea. Thank you for any advice. Parvifolia elm is commonly known as Chinese or Lacebark elm medium-sized firewood. Siberian Elm is the standout of the two, and commonly has small knots that can range from just a couple per board, to a birds-eye look, and even heavily burled. As garden plants have benefits and other uses, allergy is also a major drawback of plants for some people. The Chinese (Lacebark Elm) tree is smaller than the American Elm tree. Burns OK, but not great. Initially, I suspected the Siberian in the front yard to be its parent, but the light color throws me off, making me think it is the Chinese variety. Without doubt there is a Siberian elm in our front yard which spread literally hundreds of annoying weed seeds everywhere around the property I have been caretaking past year. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. smaller than those of Siberian elm and are without the purplish coloration. And I am not sure if it was ‘American’ elm , but I doubt it…thanks for the post. From Oklahoma south and west to southern California the Chinese elm re-mains semi-evergreen to evergreen. It does not die from Dutch Elm disease, but has other issues that make it less desirable as a tree. This species of elm is native to Korea, Central Asia, Tibet, Mongolia, the … Dutch Elm Disease Chinese Elm vs. Siberian Elm. It adapts to many types of soil and prefers moist but well-drained conditions. They are useful trees in areas where trees are desired but care is unavailable. While these trees have demonstrated invasive traits, there is insufficient supporting research to declare them so pervasive that they cannot be recommended for any planting sites. Siberian elm (Not recommended) Siberian elms have invasive traits that enable them to spread aggressively. I have never seen one in real life, at least that I know of, and this was a great opportunity for a close-up view of a confirmed Chinese elm tree. The bark is gray-brown bark with furrows at maturity. That’s the point of my post. The elms to which you refer are probably Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila) instead of the true Chinese Elm (Ulmus parvifolia). Thus far, it has been hardier than its cousin and is not susceptible to classic elm disease. Plan on using them for your woodworking projects and having great results. It happens all the time, people call me and tell me about trees that are so big that they can’t get their arms around them and, unrelated but still slightly humorous, they tell me about their Chinese Elms. 0000230636 00000 n BTW, the likely choice is Siberian elm or American elm if the bark does not look like Chinese. I can't tell whether is it a Chinese elm (Ulmus parvifolia) or a Siberian elm (Ulmus pumila). Thanks to the Missouri Botanical Gardens for clearly marking this Chinese elm. The Chinese elm has a rounded shape and distinctive exfoliating colorful bark in shades of brown, gray, green, and orange. Even-tually Chinese elm may approach forty to fifty feet 0000000764 00000 n Siberian elm is very common in Albuquerque and has become a nuisance. ( Log Out /  0000227373 00000 n That said, Siberian Elm & Chinese Elm don't seem to be particularly invasive in Southern Ontario....naturalized, yes....invasive, no. I was at an arborist conference last year and there was a lot of talk about Siberian elm from a presenter from Minnesota. This plant can be weedy or invasive according to the authoritative sources noted below.This plant may be known by one or more common names in different places, and some are listed above. 0000001247 00000 n All lumber is rough sawn with surfacing available at the standard shop rate. I've attached photos of the trunk and leaves. In this case, the tree has a short trunk with a lot of taper and crooked smaller branches. 0000001269 00000 n The tree is also called the Asiatic elm or dwarf elm and is sometimes confused with the Chinese elm. Chinese elm is more oriental in shape. Siberian Elm (Ulmus pumila)A fast-growing tree that grows to be 50-70’ tall. By the way, many people call Siberian elm by the wrong name, Chinese elm. Tags: Chinese, elm, Lumber, sawmilling, Siberian, Woodworking, Wunderwoods. The elm issue moved to the forefront after a recent trip to the Missouri Botanical Gardens when I ran across an actual Chinese Elm conveniently marked with a little official sign. Denver has a program for it, if they are in the ROW you are in luck. While Siberian Elm can grow to a large statured shade tree and is highly resistent to Dutch Elm Disease (DED), it is not as winter hardy as our native elms and all too often it will develop scrappy grow, sun scald, sloughing bark and dead branches, characteristics that earned it the name "piss" elm. The bark on a Chinese elm looks nothing like other elms and unlike any domestic species. I took that opportunity to snap some photos for comparison. We offer local high-grade hardwood lumber milled by us. 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